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I haven't taken the bus anywhere yet, on the map it looks like the system has many STOPs, your incident, I would hope would have been a rare occurance. Anyone who has had this or a similar experience is encouraged to call Streamline and ask to speak with Management to lodge a complaint or leave feedback. |
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| I was running today on Resort Road near the Ridge (Valley West) at about 10 a.m. when there was still plenty of slush on the road. A streamline bus came barreling down Resort towards me and did little to nothing to avoid soaking my right side completely with the splash from his wheels. As a "pedestrian" I am supposed to be going against the traffic so we were on the same side of the road. The bike lane had not been cleared, nor had the rest of the road to any great degree. The driver moved slightly to his left though he could have moved way farther over being that there was perfect visibility and nobody coming in the other direction. He instead chose to splatter me with road muck. I had given him a friendly wave just before he drove by -- I was tempted to give him a less friendly gesture afterwards but instead maintained my civility and just kept going. | |
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| I get cheesed off every time I see one of the Streamline buses because I still can't get over the Chronicle article about how much they cost and the $10 per rider/per ride cost — all at taxpayer expense. Well, there's that, and the fact that the vehicles are so hideously ugly. What is this: Toon Town? | |
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Yellowstone buses
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I guess you can blame Yellowstone park for the "ugly look" since that is where it came from. Also, maybe you should come down to one of the board meetings and listen to what this bus system has done for our area--do you know how many people are riding those "ugly" buses everyday and saving on gas, pollution, traffic congestion, and many other benefits. Do you know where the funding comes from? Grants--who would you prefer spent these, New York? ASMSU--they realize the benefits of a bus system, Bridger Bowl--again, benefits. And, here is some food for thougth--did you know that dome people, mainly the elderly and disabled, have trouble getting around town. Streamline is a huge blessing for them. And, what about people without other modes of transportation? For all you those who are against free public transportation--let's just hope you never need it but, if you do, it will still be there. As a person who works with people with disabilities in our community and many more rural communities--transportation is a huge issue and it isn't just for fun--transportation is needed to get to medical services, shopping, and all the other things some people tke for granted--in my opinion, Streamline is one of the best things to happen in this town and as a native--that is saying a lot! |
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RE: Yellowstone buses
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RE: Do you know where the funding comes from? Grants ... Uh ... not entirely. According to the article Streamline looks at new tax to expand Bus system would like to add more routes, weekend service that appeared in the Daily Chronicle on 17 November 2007: "Streamline is currently funded through a mix of federal money, a local tax used to pay for transit services such as Galavan, and MSU student fees. The transit system is administered by the Human Resource Development Council of Bozeman, with input from the Associated Students MSU." [Emphasis mine.] Please note: federal money comes from taxes paid. The article went on to state that the bus system administrators are considering asking Bozeman voters to approve a "new tax" sometime before November of 2008 to help pay for expanding the Streamline system — a 9-mill levy that would add about $24 - $25 per year to homeowner's taxes (based on the median taxable home value in Bozeman). Yeah, we all know about the historical look harking back to the Yellowstone busses of the 1930s. That 'look' cost an extra $8,200 per bus over the price of a traditional flatback bus. Personally, I think we can find better ways to honor our past and promote a sense of place than by having cutsey-goofy public busses. It is sadly ironic that the city allows developers to tear down our historic buildings with no attempt at preserving any part of the façade, and they replace real history with Disneyfied imitations. PS—I'm not against public transportation. I think it's good for our community and should be promoted. In fact, I believe in it to the degree that I feel it should qualify for some public subsidization. Fares should also be priced as reasonably as possible and there should probably be provisions for disabled to ride at no charge — but I can't find a justification for the city to provide free transportation for all. |
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The money trail
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Federal dollars for transportation will go to someone--would you prefer they go to other states and their systems? In terms of local tax, we will most likely not make it onto a ballot for quite a while as the city is much more interested in taxing the local population for a much needed jail. Collecting fares--this idea and all it entails has been discussed and would actually be quite costly. According to research done by one board member, in Washington State, they went to a fare and took in $121,300 but it cost them $13,385 to collect those fares!! Also, who would we collect the fares from? Students pay a fee with their tuition, senoirs, people with disabilities, and low incomes ride for free--who does that leave? and how much would we make? Also, the income would lower our federal match money--not so good. BTW, donations are requested but not required. As to the cost per rider, Streamline was less than $5 back in August of 07 and since then the ridership has increased dramatically so, it would be even cheaper. The Galavan is about $7.61 per rider--that is why my agency and myself are huge supporters of the Streamline bus. One other thing to consider is the carbon footprint but that is another story because we are talking $$$ here. Or we could talk about the benefits of less traffic and congestion and less people trying to find a parking place--especially on campus. As to the disabled and elderly, the Galavan has provided transportation for these populations since 1973 but it is much more affordable for the city if they ride the Streamline buses. That is why the agency I work for promotes the Streamline and provides transportation training. Anyway, I guess I just think the benefits of the free system are priceless--for everyone involved but I guess that is just one service providers humble opinion. |
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something else you might like to know
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| Services were expanded to evenings and did you know that the DUI rate went down--substantially? I would say that is another priceless benefit! | |
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OK, now, since we just got back from Austin, TX, I'll add some more comments. The Metro bus system in Austin is extremely good. The fare is 50 cents a ride, $1.00 a day and less if you buy a month or year pass. They are all extremely reliable, accessible, and the drivers are friendly. They stop where they're supposed to, and I watched a driver help a disabled rider unhook her cart and made sure she got off the bus safely. He didn't act like it was a pain to do it either. Maybe it's his job but he did it with a smile. They also have the "'Dillo" a "trolley" system for the tourists, I assume, that runs through campus, the capitol, LBJ library, and other prime tourist places. This service is free. There's also talk of reviving the city train system as well. The disabled have passes, and I'm sure that seniors get a rate, too. My point is, maybe somebody from Streamline should take a "Busman's Holiday" to Austin and pick up a few hints. We desperately need to find alternative ways of getting around-I just paid $3.59 a gallon to fill my tank. It has, has, has to be something we can count on. And maybe someday there'll be a park-n-ride from Manhattan, too. Oh, by the way, I don't care what they look like, just so they work. The buses in Mexico are pretty battered, but their service is some of the best anywhere. As for me, I'll try to take my granddaughter again-hopefully the driver that left us standing will stop for us this time. |
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